in their attempt to come up with strange reports and issues that can cause outrage - and hence, increase followers - social media pretenders (to knowledge) say anything and everything. especially the likes of aasim al-ghabi. stupid, ignorant, imbecile.
Yasir Qadhi also suggested she was in her 20s. These salafi types love to reject mainstream opinions in order to look more learned. Oh look at me, my ground breaking research has come to a conclusion that most others are unable to reach. It makes them feel special and it makes their followers think they're following a proper mujaddid who rectified the errors of ibn hajar and the like. At it's core, the rejection of main stream sunni scholarship is an ego boosting exercise and a way to gather more followers. See what mirza does. No doubt he'll plagiarise the claims of Usman and YQ and present it to his followers in urdu as if he did the research himself. Refuting them on these points is important as it shows the shallow nature of their knowledge for one thing.
while i understand that anyone can mix up things - certain things are very difficult to mix up unless the acquaintance is passing. the confidence with which he said ibn hajar al-asqalani said in bidayah wa'n nihayah was amusing.
He should stick to debating christians. The blunders this man has made in the field of ḥadīth with the book he has written and he claims to have graduated and have ijazah in the field of ḥadīth. One such blunder he has made was he said regarding a ḥadīth about yemen and its people was; he was quoting al-Haythami from Majmaʿ who said: Saʿīd bin al-Mussayib never met Abū Huraryah. First he misquoted al-Haythami. Al-Haythami said: Ṭabarānī narrated it from trustworthy men except that Khalid bin Maʿdan did not hear from Muʿādh 10:44. See attached Second: Every man who studies ḥadīth knows Saʿīd bin al-Mussayib is the most knowledgeable about Abū Hurairah and he married his daughter. The man said it with so much confidence that I had ended up laughing. This is from my personal copy of al-Mizzi's Tahdhīb al-Kamal.
sayyidah khadijah was married twice before and also had a son from her second husband abi haalah. when you see imam husayn's hadith in shamayil: "i asked my maternal uncle hind ibn abi halah..." those who have heard that the Prophet's SallALlahu alayhi wa sallam male progeny had passed away in infancy, may wonder how this reconciles with "my maternal uncle". so the answer is: he is the son of sayyidah khadijah, by a previous marriage and she was widow when she proposed or her uncle proposed on her behalf. raDi'Allahu anha wa arDaah
Maybe he is trying to cater to his red piller audience, as they usually advocate for early marriage, while some woke Muslim women who marry late or after a couple of divorces cite these hadith to normalize late marriage. So it's a fight between two extreme groups.
jazak Allah to you brothers for providing these references here. however, i fail to see what the fuss is all about for this guy. just trying to browbeat streetside commoners (literally, see his youtube videos, the guy's work is mostly on the streets for some reason) with one's supposed knowledge? in the case of our Mother Aishah radi Allahu 3anha and her age of marriage, these freaks need to appeal to the sensibilities of their 21st century colonial masters, so you can see them begging and pleading like the uncle toms they are. in this case, isnad and ruwwat aside, yes it's an academic investigation, but from a madkhali's perspective, what exactly is he trying to prove to his masters or modernist students - 35, 25, 40, 45 - none of these numbers make a difference for him/his masters/his fan club! one more of those personal branding things perhaps - 'Abu Hanifah got this masala wrong'... 'oh look! Waqidi is unreliable'...?
Asalam ʿalā’īkum so I had watched his initial video and found it extremely cringe. Yes although al-Waqidi was abandoned in ḥadīth as stated by Ibn Hajar in al-Taqrib and Talkhis al-Habir he also stated he had vast knowledge and depended on him in some of the biographies in al-Iṣābah. The narration this ʿUthmān Wahabi uses to prove that Sayyidah Khadija ؓ was 28 years old is in Mustadrak al-Ḥākim; Kitāb al-Maʿrifah al-Ṣaḥābah; Bab: Dhikr Manaqib Khadijah bint Khuwaylid ؓ . So I checked its chain in al-Mustadrak and it is the saying of Muḥammad bin Isḥāq not an ãthār from the companions or senior tābi'īs. If Sayyidah Khadijah was 28 years a the time she would have passed away at the age of 53. As he had married Rasūlullāh ﷺ 15 years before the claim of prophethood and passed 10 years after. However his second proof is in direct contradiction to this. His second proof was from Al-Dalā'il al-Nabuwwah 2:70-71 of Imām al-Bayhaqī however this is also a saying from a Tab al-Tābi`ī, Muṣ'ab bin ʿAbdullāh student of Imām Mālik who says it is her ؓ passing away at 50 years of age is correct. If this saying is taken it means Sayyidah Khadijah was 25 years of age. Ibn Kathīr states this in al-Bidayah 3:88 Ibn Sa'd in Ṭabaqāt 10:18 mentions a narration on the authority of Ibn ʿAbbās رضي الله عنه However this narration is also discarded due to Muḥammad bin Sā'ib about who Ibn Ḥajar saidin al-taqrib; Mutahim bil-Kidhb wa-Rumiya bil-Rifd (accused of lying and has some rifd) Abū Ṣāleh who is Bazām who is weak. Al-Waqidi replied to this and said: We say and so do some of the people of Knowledge that Khadijah was born 15 years before the year of the Elephant (Fīl) and when Rasūlullāh ﷺ married her she was 40 years of age and then he presented his proof the narraion of Ḥakīm bin Hizām. What we can say at the very least is Al-Waqidi had provided chains for his proof of 40 years of age. Ibn Isḥāq may have relied on the narration from Bazam from Ibn ʿAbbās which is why he had stated 28 years of age. @abu Hasan could you maybe see if the claim of al-Waqidi that Khadijah ؓ was born 15 years before the year of fīl is correct? Allāh Knows Best
firstly, the book al-bidayah wa'n nihayah is not by ibn hajar al-asqalani. it is by ibn kathir. secondly, ibn kathir does not say in al-bidayah wan nihayah (BwN) that the age of our mother sayyidah khadijah at the time of her marriage with our master sayyiduna RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam was between 25 or 28. instead he mentions two reports: 25 and 35. bidayah wa'n nihayah, v3 p88 --- tarikh tabari, v2 p280 ---- subul hudaa of salihi al-shami v2 p166 ---- uyun al-athar of ibn sayyid al-naas v1 p115 --- wafaa of ibn al-jawzi, v1 p238 insan al-uyun, or sirah al-halabiyyah, v as for ibn hajar al-asqalani, in his isabah, vo.8 p.61, he cites waqidi without comment. so this roadside youtuber knows better tahn ibn hajar whom he claims to quote. strange times we live in! ---- these are all tall muhaddithin. neither the speaker nor are his teacher anywhere near his greatness and knowledge to trust HIS version of the matter - where he got three facts wrong in a one line statement. waqidi has been criticised, but it is shamelessness or abject ignorance to describe him as the wahabi does; waqidi is far better than one million of these youtubers. these juhala think that they are at the level of imam ahmad to speak about waqidi as they do! check out my other post on waqidi: https://sunniport.com/index.php?threads/allamah-sharaf-on-tawassul-istiaanat.15796/#post-82097 ---- yes, there are valid criticism about him but they are related to hadith reports concerning halal and haram, aqayid and farayid, and this is not to be held against him.
a brother asked me about the truth of this claim. looks like some wahabi or quasi-wahabi doing his thing. unnecessarily causing ripples. as usual based on half baked knowledge and on . https://youtube.com/shorts/yM2RHDAGsLw in the video he says that the age of sayyidah khadijah was between 25 to 28 according to ibn hajar al-asqalani in al-bidayah wa'n nihayah. secondly he castigates waqidi - as a matruk and extremely weak narrator; and that all the narrations of 40 are through him.
