Shaykh Asrar refutes Chuff Chuff

Haq responds to Shaykh Asrar Rashid and challenges him, and also challenges Mirza Masroor Ahmad, from 2:08:43:

https://www.youtube.com/live/meGd5Kd4aPI

 

What would Qasim say about Fiaz?

 

Mufti Qasim's fatwa needs to be shared far and wide. It is the first time (in my knowledge anyway) a Barelvi scholar in the West has explicitly refuted him in the English language (yes I know it was translated).

http://www.seekerspath.co.uk/questi...YZe2nw6-UoPnDqyvWq_aem_RA5HWtvPOQnNqZ-FhH0roA

 

thank you for clarifying

 

If you look at the videos of Shaykh Asrar Rashid entering the hall after Syed Muzammil Shah had left—which was fortunate for Shaykh Asrar, as the Syed would likely have begun slandering him from the stage—you can see that when Qari Shahid began singing, Shaykh Asrar walked in with a few people. The group gradually grew as he made his way toward the front, where he was met by a beardless man who gestured for him to move toward the seating area.

Instead of doing so, Shaykh Asrar remained standing with a group of people. This proved to be a rather unwise tactic. The organisers likely mistook the group gathered at the front as an attempt to cause trouble or attack Haq Badshah. As a result, Haq was instructed by an organiser to leave and then casually walked off the stage.

This directly contradicts the false narrative being spread on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, which claims that Haq “did a runner” as soon as Shaykh Asrar walked in.

Had the situation been handled differently—and had Shaykh Asrar entered alongside other scholars such as Imam Adil Shazad, Shaykh Mohammed Aslam, and Shaykh Monawwar Ateeq, who are known to speak directly or indirectly against Haq—people might have witnessed some form of discussion. Instead of arriving with individuals such as Harris Khaliq, Shakeel Afsar, Atzaz Umar, Hasnain, and the other individual who confronted Murtaza Khan (see video below), Haq could have been questioned about what he recites as an amil, the extent of his Islamic learning, what authorisation he has to present himself as a “peer,” and his past conduct could have been properly examined.



As for Syed Iqrar’s cases against Haq, it is unlikely that anything will come of this as Haq is now untouchable in Pakistan and has full support from the military and political establishment, as well as from well-known underworld figures throughout Azad Kashmir and Pakistan. Even Ulama, Pirs, and Khanqahs can’t do much to him now.

That being said, why are people in the UK focusing mainly on Amils like Haq Badshah from Balawara and not on other amils like Azmat Nawaz and his associate Arslan from Patriata who are doing the exact same thing when they are in the UK and in Pakistan

 

I understand where you coming from but like the Shaykh said the charlatan's mureeds said to him, 'why don't you speak to him face to face'?. He landed and chuff chuff ran away. These people shouldn't be allowed to hold gatherings and continue to misguide the masses. Within a space of a few months, he supported Mufti Shahid in a successful debate against the Deos, called out Tommy Robinson, successfully debated the Rafzis and dealt with Chuff Chuff. People may question the style but like a brother remarked to me about the Shaykh about 15 years ago, 'you need the hammer in the toolbox'. Shaykh Asrar on the ground in terms of dealing with the deviants has no parallel in England in the last two decades.
I remember vividly having Salafis constantly turning up to our gatherings with leaflets and harassing our awaam in Birmingham. This was prior to Shaykh Asrar and Shaykh Yaseen's debate with Damashiqh and the manner in which they dealt with him meant no Salafi has tried the same antics since. I understand that things have shifted online now but I felt a palpable difference since that debate.
I have known the Shaykh for a long time, and although have only spoken to them a handful of times in recent years, I see them as a positive influence for the Sunni awaam. I disagree with them on things too but they deserve our support and backing.

 

Whilst I do like the like idea of chasing chuff out of Birmingham... I'm not too sure about the idea of randomly rocking up to confront someone uninvited. Surely that just sets bad precedents for others to try and heckle us during urs gatherings, for example, because they're trying to 'confront' us on our 'bidah'.

On the other hand, it was also good 'PR' which we mentioned the need of on other threads.

 

What is this all about?

https://youtube.com/shorts/saE_XI4ljME?si=bWtPEdo8Qwx8u3Kq

 

Ok, so now he's championing the khatme nubuwwat cause! Great

Let's leave aside the rafidi and tafdili overtures for a while -

How many qadianis has he tackled during his visit or scheduled to?
How many of the gobar shahi lot?
How many Christians, jews, atheists and european islamophobes? (Can he converse in the queen's English? French? Dutch? Spanish? German? Italian?)

Or is he just defending khatme nubuwwat in a gathering of desis who do not deny it in the first place?

 

Syed Muzammil Hussain Jamati was present at the gathering, where he extolled Haq Badshah. Syed Muzammil has still not retracted the slanderous comments he made against Sayyiduna Mu‘awiya at a gathering years ago. Despite being told by Syed Irfani Miya to retract those remarks during that gathering, Syed Muzammil refused, after which Syed Irfani left the gathering.


The singer Qari Shahid Mehmood—who has been robbing the Pakistani, Indian and Kashmiri diaspora in the UK for decades—was also present. Tasleem Sabri, another optimist from Pakistan, was in attendance as well. Qari Shahid’s antics from a previous gathering:



Syed Iqrar ul Hassan’s previous visit:

 

I thought I saw that pathetic non-wali tasleem sabri there.

In the youtube video, dunno if some guy looking like hasnain shah was there.

 

Chuff Chuff Flees From Shaykh Asrar Rashid

https://x.com/i/status/2006558821364461932

 

They should all get PhD's in strawmanning!

Did chuff chuff come to UK to debate qadianis or assert khatme nubuwwat aqidah?

Is Asrar Rashid a denier of khatme nubuwwat wal 3eyadhu billah?

Why shouting the khatme nubuwwat slogan at the time Asrar Rashid wants to talk to him, or at any time during his visit unless his core mission for the visit is nothing but safeguarding the aqidah?

It's clear he's a filthy dajjal and a munafiq abusing the blessed aqidah for his nefarious purposes.

{ إِذَا جَاۤءَكَ ٱلۡمُنَـٰفِقُونَ قَالُوا۟ نَشۡهَدُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُ ٱللَّهِۗ وَٱللَّهُ یَعۡلَمُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُهُۥ وَٱللَّهُ یَشۡهَدُ إِنَّ ٱلۡمُنَـٰفِقِینَ لَكَـٰذِبُونَ }
[Surah Al-Munāfiqūn: 1]

 

Aqdas do you know this Pir?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BuyHTUToR/